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America Is the Only Country That Went from Barbarism to Decadence Without Civilization In Between

Not George Bernard Shaw — earliest match is critic James Agate James Agate
Attribution status: Disputed Reuse status: Rights unconfirmed

The line is not Shaw’s. The earliest close match found by Quote Investigator ↗ is a theatre review by James Agate in The Sunday Times of London, April 1926 — and Agate was jeering at Russia, not America. The barb was turned on the United States by an unsigned 1932 editorial in the Paris paper La Liberté, then drifted onto one famous wit after another. Shaw’s name was attached only in 1967; Shaw had died in 1950. QI credits Agate “tentatively” and finds no substantive evidence of coinage for any of the celebrities.

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“America Is the Only Country That Went from Barbarism to Decadence Without Civilization In Between” Not George Bernard Shaw. The earliest known close match is James Agate, "The Dramatic World: Those Russians Again," The Sunday Times (London), 4 April 1926 — reprinted in Red Letter Nights (Jonathan Cape, 1944), p. 113 — where the target is Russia, not America. The America wording is first documented in an unsigned 1932 editorial in La Liberté (Paris), quoted in Time, 25 July 1932. Shaw's name was attached to it in 1967; he died in 1950. Traced by Quote Investigator. · Verbatim: “…passing from barbarism to decadence without knowing civilization…”

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Provenance

The earliest documented wording

Earliest close match
“The Dramatic World: Those Russians Again”
Published
The Sunday Times (London), 4 April 1926, p. 4 — a review of Andreyev’s Katerina; reprinted in Red Letter Nights (Jonathan Cape, 1944), p. 113
Target
Russia — not America
First aimed at America
Unsigned editorial in La Liberté (Paris), July 1932

… the temptation is to cast about for excuses, to pity Russia for having been left out of the Roman march, and so passing from barbarism to decadence without knowing civilization … Russia, not America

Read directly from the full text of Red Letter Nights, p. 113, and spelled as the book spells it. The review is dated 3 April 1926 in the book; Quote Investigator cites the newspaper printing as The Sunday Times of 4 April 1926, and transcribes the word as “civilisation” where the 1944 Cape reprint sets “civilization.”

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How the line travelled

  • April 1926 — the earliest close match. James Agate’s Sunday Times notice of Andreyev’s Katerina pities Russia for “passing from barbarism to decadence without knowing civilisation” — Quote Investigator’s transcription of the newspaper printing. The review is reprinted on p. 113 of Red Letter Nights (1944) ↗, which sets the word “civilization.”
  • July 1932 — the target becomes America. Furious with President Hoover over war debts, the Paris paper La Liberté wrote that “Americans are the only race which passed directly from barbarism to decadence without knowing civilization” — translated in Time, 25 July 1932 ↗. The author was unnamed.
  • December 1945 — the best-known celebrity credit. Hans Bendix credited the line to Georges Clemenceau in The Saturday Review of Literature, the earliest such reference recorded by Wikiquote ↗. Churchill, Mencken and Wilde followed — though a variant had already been assigned to the novelist John O’Hara in 1934.
  • 1967 — Shaw’s turn. A Boston Globe interview with H. Rap Brown ascribed the saying to George Bernard Shaw, the ascription Quote Investigator identifies ↗ as the root of the Shaw credit. Shaw had died in 1950.

No rights status can honestly be asserted for the famous America wording, because no author or first publication has ever been identified for it — its earliest documented appearance is an unsigned 1932 editorial in La Liberté. The closest documented antecedent, James Agate’s Sunday Times review, was first published in April 1926 and is therefore in the public domain in the United States — but that is a different sentence, about Russia.

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Fact-check

Five famous names, none of them documented

This is one of the most heavily reassigned epigrams in English. Quote Investigator ↗ catalogues the whole parade and concludes that “none of these attributions provides substantive evidence of coinage.”

The Shaw creditGeorge Bernard Shaw No evidence

QI traces the Shaw ascription to a 1967 Boston Globe interview ↗ with H. Rap Brown, who told the reporter “You know what George Bernard Shaw said about America?” Shaw died in 1950. Wikiquote’s George Bernard Shaw page ↗ carries no entry for the line in any section.

The Wilde creditOscar Wilde Chronologically impossible

The Times of London ran the exact modern wording as number four in a 2008 “Top Ten Quotes of Oscar Wilde” feature. As QI points out ↗, Wilde died in 1900 — before any evidence of the expression in English.

The Clemenceau creditGeorges Clemenceau Late and thin

First recorded by the Danish illustrator Hans Bendix in The Saturday Review of Literature, 1 December 1945, quoting his aunt quoting Clemenceau. Wikiquote ↗ flags this as the earliest such reference; QI has located no direct evidence for Clemenceau.

The Churchill creditWinston Churchill Repetition, not coinage

A Leonard Lyons column in the Washington Post of 29 April 1947 has Churchill using a version while joking about a lecture fee. QI allows ↗ he may well have repeated it — fifteen years after it was already in print.

The O'Hara creditJohn O'Hara Unlikely

The Golden Book magazine assigned a variant to the novelist in October 1934, and the Penguin Dictionary of Modern Humorous Quotations repeated it in 1986. QI judges ↗ it unlikely he originated the phrase.

The earliest close match anyone has found is James Agate, writing in The Sunday Times in April 1926 about a Russian play — a sentence you can read for yourself on page 113 of his Red Letter Nights ↗. The famous America version has no identified author at all.

Context

Why this one keeps changing owners

The saying is a floating epigram: short, quotable, and structurally anonymous. For more than a decade after 1932 it circulated in English with no author at all — attributed only to “a French journalist,” “a foreign wit,” “an overseas critic,” or, in Ogden Nash’s 1934 verse, “one of those witty Frenchmen whose name I cannot for the moment recall.” A line that good does not stay ownerless for long.

What happened next is the standard mechanism behind most famous fake quotes. An unowned epigram gets assigned to whichever celebrated wit the speaker finds most plausible, and the assignment hardens into a citation. Clemenceau, Churchill, Wilde, Mencken, John O’Hara and Shaw have all been named — every one of them years after the remark was already in print unattributed.

For over a decade the line had no author at all — only “one of those witty Frenchmen whose name I cannot for the moment recall.”

The oddity: Agate was writing about Russia

Agate’s 1926 sentence is not about America. Reviewing Leonid Andreyev’s Katerina at a London theatre, he suggested the English temptation was “to pity Russia for having been left out of the Roman march,” and so passing from barbarism to decadence without knowing civilisation. The target swapped to the United States six years later, in a French paper furious with President Hoover over war debts.

Quote Investigator also notes a partial thematic precursor in French — an 1841 passage by Hippolyte Roux-Ferrand about a Russian ruler who “made his country pass without transition from barbarism to decadence” — and a conceptually similar riff by Henry James about American fruit going from crudity to rottenness with no ripeness in between. QI notes it has not searched French-language newspaper databases, so an earlier French antecedent remains possible.

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Who James Agate was

James Agate

1877–1947 · English theatre critic and diarist, The Sunday Times

James Agate was the most-read theatre critic in Britain between the wars, writing the weekly drama column of The Sunday Times from 1923 until his death in 1947, and keeping the sprawling published diary Ego. He was a professional phrase-maker — the sort of writer who tossed off a lethal formulation in the middle of a notice and moved on. The barbarism-to-decadence jibe appears exactly that way: buried mid-paragraph in a grumpy 1926 review of a Russian play, aimed at Russia, and never claimed by him as an epigram at all.

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James Agate, "The Dramatic World: Those Russians Again," The Sunday Times (London), April 4, 1926, 4; review dated April 3, 1926 and reprinted in Agate, Red Letter Nights (London: Jonathan Cape, 1944), 113. Identified as the earliest known close match by Quote Investigator, "Quote Origin: America Is the Only Country That Went from Barbarism to Decadence Without Civilization In Between," December 7, 2011. The America wording is first documented in La Liberté (Paris), quoted in Time, July 25, 1932.

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