Who really said it

Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times

Q: Is "Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times" really by G. Michael Hopf?

Yes. The sentence's earliest documented appearance is Those Who Remain (2016), the seventh book in G. Michael Hopf's post-apocalyptic New World series. Hopf's own account says his research into Strauss–Howe generational theory led him to include the line while writing the novel in 2015, and he notes the underlying idea is much older. The circulating credit to a 14th-century Arab source is unsupported — and because Hopf is alive and writing, the line is under copyright.

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The sentence’s earliest documented appearance is Those Who Remain (2016), the seventh book in G. Michael Hopf’s post-apocalyptic New World series. Hopf’s own account says his research into Strauss–Howe generational theory led him to include the line while writing the novel in 2015, and he notes the underlying idea is much older. The circulating credit to a 14th-century Arab source is unsupported — and because Hopf is alive and writing, the line is under copyright.

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“Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times” —G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain (2016). In copyright: quote briefly with attribution, not as free stock content.

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The source

Work: Those Who Remain (The New World, book 7)
Published: First published (Kindle ed.) 30 December 2016
Author: G. Michael Hopf, b. 1970
Confirmed by: The author, on his own site

Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And weak men create hard times. Those Who Remain, 2016

The published wording, quoted here for identification and commentary. This is a novel by a living writer — unusually for this site, the correct answer is not a public-domain text you may freely reuse.

G. Michael Hopf on writing the line

How we traced it

Hopf has published his own account of writing the line while working on book seven of the series, and names Strauss–Howe generational theory as the inspiration. He notes the underlying idea has older roots in Ibn Khaldun and Plato — but does not claim either man wrote the sentence the author’s account ↗.
Note the shape of the line in the novel: four separate sentences, not the single run-on that circulates. The meme version compresses them into one comma-spliced sentence — the commonest wording variant.
No one who credits Ibn Khaldun supplies a chapter, page, or translation, and the Muqaddimah passage usually offered — the decay of asabiyyah — says something different from this sentence. Ed West traces how the meme travelled from Ibn Khaldun’s cyclical theory into circulation via a novelist how the meme spread ↗.

In copyright

In copyright — treat with care. G. Michael Hopf is a living author and Those Who Remain (2016) is protected for the author’s lifetime plus fifty to seventy years or more, depending on the country. A short quotation with full attribution — author, title, year — is normal quotation practice, but this line is not free stock content: do not put it on merchandise, in advertising, or on a print for sale without permission, and do not describe it as an ancient proverb to sidestep the question. The Ibn Khaldun myth is convenient precisely because it makes a copyrighted sentence look public domain. This is not legal advice.

Rights status is our research, not legal advice — and copyright varies by country and edition. For commercial or published use, confirm with the rightsholder. See terms.

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The attribution problem

The origin is settled — the earliest documented appearance is a 2016 novel, and its living author has written about the line himself. What keeps this quote in dispute is a persistent effort to age it by six hundred years.

Not Ibn Khaldun false quotation

We could find no citation that supplies a chapter, page, or translation for the sentence in the Muqaddimah (1377); the credit is always given bare. The passage usually pointed to is the asabiyyah cycle, which is a different claim (see below).

A genuinely parallel idea concept real, quotation false

The Muqaddimah describes a four-generation decay of asabiyyah — group feeling: desert hardiness produces conquest, conquest produces luxury, luxury dissolves solidarity, and the dynasty falls. That really is a cycle of hardness and softness. It is not this sentence, and the difference matters.

'An ancient Arab proverb' unsourced

Sometimes traced to Plato — whom Hopf himself names as part of the older lineage — or waved off as ‘an ancient Arab proverb.’ Neither is given a real citation, and Hopf’s own stated inspiration was Strauss–Howe generational theory, a 1990s American framework.

Four sentences, not one altered punctuation

The line in the novel is four full sentences; the circulating version compresses them into a single comma-spliced line.

Genuinely G. Michael Hopf, Those Who Remain (2016) — a novel published within the last decade, by an author who is alive to confirm it his account ↗.

Context

Why it resonates

It offers a complete theory of history in four clauses, and it flatters whoever is quoting it: hard times are coming, and you are the strong one. Its neat circularity is also what makes it feel ancient — proverbs sound like this.

That is exactly why the attribution drifted. A line this tidy invites a distinguished author, and a 14th-century Arab historian lends it the authority of a law of nature rather than a plot beat in an EMP thriller.

The myth is convenient: a 14th-century author would make a copyrighted sentence free.

Why the Ibn Khaldun credit is so sticky

There is a real cyclical theory in the Muqaddimah — so the claim survives a casual check.

Ibn Khaldun died in 1406, which would make the line public domain and free to sell on posters. Hopf’s copyright makes it neither.

Hopf himself acknowledges the older intellectual lineage, and that gracious remark gets quoted back as though he were conceding authorship.

The saying spikes on social media in hard times, when nobody stops to check a citation that flatters them.

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'Hard Times Create Strong Men' — the author's own accountgmichaelhopf.com

Hopf explains when he wrote it, what inspired it, and how it escaped into the world without his name.

Those Who Remain — edition recordgoodreads.com

Publication date and edition details for the novel the line appears in.

Hard times create strong men, weak men…edwest.co.uk

Traces the meme’s spread and its relationship to Ibn Khaldun’s genuine cyclical theory.

The true author

About G. Michael Hopf

G. Michael Hopf

b. 1970 · American novelist and former US Marine

G. Michael Hopf is a bestselling American author of post-apocalyptic and western fiction, and a former US Marine and executive protection agent. His New World series imagines the collapse of society after an electromagnetic pulse. He is the rare living writer whose novel carries a line so widely repeated that people assume it must be centuries old — and he has published his own account of how it came to appear in the book.

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Primary source — Chicago

Hopf, G. Michael. Those Who Remain (The New World, book 7). 2016.

MLA (9th ed.)

Hopf, G. Michael. Those Who Remain. 2016.

APA (7th ed.)

Hopf, G. M. (2016). Those who remain.

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