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Who really said it

In politics, if you want anything said, ask a man; if you want anything done, ask a woman

Spoken by Margaret Thatcher
Attribution status: Documented in print the same afternoon — on a page that is not online. Reuse status: In copyright

She said it, and the source is pinned. Quote Investigator concludes “Margaret Thatcher did pronounce this maxim” ↗ and traces it to a page-one quote in the London Evening News of 20 May 1965, reporting her that afternoon to the National Union of Townswomen’s Guilds. She was a backbench MP at the time. One honest caveat, which we keep on the page rather than bury: that newspaper page is not available online, and QI reached it through a CD-ROM database rather than the open web.

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“In politics, if you want anything said, ask a man; if you want anything done, ask a woman” Margaret Thatcher, then Conservative MP for Finchley, speaking to the National Union of Townswomen's Guilds Conference in London, 20 May 1965. Earliest documented appearance: a page-one quote in the Evening News (London), 20 May 1965, as reported by Quote Investigator, which concludes Thatcher did say it. No online primary text of the speech survives.

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Provenance

The source

Occasion
Speech to the National Union of Townswomen’s Guilds Conference, London
Date
20 May 1965
Speaker’s standing then
Conservative MP for Finchley — fourteen years before becoming Prime Minister
Earliest documented text
A page-one quote in the Evening News (London), 20 May 1965, reported by Quote Investigator

“In politics, if you want anything said ask a man, if you want anything done ask a woman.” — Mrs. Margaret Thatcher, Cons MP for Finchley, speaking to the National Council of the Townwomen’s Guilds in London this afternoon.

The Evening News page-one quote of 20 May 1965, as transcribed by Quote Investigator ↗ from the CD-ROM edition of Thatcher’s collected public statements. We are quoting QI’s transcription, not the newspaper itself. Note the punctuation differs slightly from the version in circulation, and the paper spells it “Townwomen’s.”

Quote Investigator’s investigation of the saying

How we verified this

  • Quote Investigator’s article on the saying ↗ is the anchor, and its verdict is unambiguous: “Margaret Thatcher did pronounce this maxim. There are two closely related versions and evidence indicates that she has used both.”
  • QI documents the earliest instance as a page-one quote in the Evening News of 20 May 1965, obtained from the CD-ROM Margaret Thatcher: Complete Public Statements 1945–1990. QI also records the honest complication we repeat here: the Guilds’ own 1965 annual report of that speech does not contain the line. Both the Yale Book of Quotations (2006), p. 754, and the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations carry a 1975 People magazine version with the “In politics” opening used here. We have not handled those volumes ourselves.
  • Wikiquote’s Thatcher page ↗ does not carry the line at all — not in its sourced quotes, and not in its Attributed, Disputed or Misattributed sections. That is an absence rather than a denial, but it is why we did not lean on Wikiquote for this one.
  • Wikipedia ↗ confirms she had been MP for Finchley since October 1959, which squares with how the Evening News identified her that afternoon, and that she did not become Prime Minister until 1979 — so the line is a backbencher’s, not a premier’s.

Fact-check

What to watch for

Nobody else is credited with this one. The things that drift are the wording, the date and the office she held.

The genuine second version“If you want a speech made, ask a man…” Also hers

QI documents a second form ↗ without the “In politics” opening, reported in a Florida paper in 1982, and a 1990 Guildhall speech in which Thatcher quotes herself: “if you want someone to make a speech, ask a man; if you want to get something done, ask a woman.” Both are hers.

DateQuoted as a Prime Ministerial line Fourteen years early

She said it in May 1965 as a backbench MP. She did not enter Downing Street until 1979 ↗.

The primary recordThe Townswomen’s Guilds’ 1965 annual report Does not contain it

QI checked the Guilds’ own account of the speech ↗ and reports that the line is not in it. The only contemporaneous text carrying the sentence is the newspaper’s.

It is hers. Quote Investigator says so ↗ — and the page it rests on is one nobody can pull up on a phone.

Context

Why it mattered

In May 1965 Margaret Thatcher was a Conservative backbencher of five years’ standing, addressing a hall full of Townswomen’s Guild delegates on a theme the Guilds recorded as “Woman — No Longer a Satellite.” The line was a crowd-pleaser at a women’s conference, and the evening paper put it on page one.

It has outlived its occasion because it works in both directions: it can be quoted as feminism or as a joke about politicians, and it is short enough to survive being repeated by people who have no idea when or where it was said.

A backbencher’s applause line in 1965. Still on posters sixty years later.

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The gap between how famous this sentence is and how thin its paper trail is makes it a useful example. There is no recording, no official transcript, and the hosting organisation’s own report of the speech omits the line. What survives is a reporter’s page-one quote the same afternoon — good evidence, and evidence of a kind that cannot be re-read by anyone without the right CD-ROM and an old computer.

Quote Investigator makes exactly that point at the end of its piece: having got the disc working, it notes that the database ought to be migrated somewhere it will stay readable. We mark the attribution as traced, because it is — and we say plainly which page we could not turn ourselves.

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About Margaret Thatcher

Margaret Thatcher

1925–2013 · British Conservative politician; Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, 1979–1990

Margaret Hilda Roberts was born in Grantham in 1925, a grocer’s daughter who read chemistry at Oxford and was called to the bar before entering the Commons as MP for Finchley in 1959. She led the Conservative Party from 1975 and was Prime Minister from 1979 to 1990, the first woman to hold either post. She died in London in 2013. This remark comes from 1965, when she was a backbencher addressing a women’s organisation — not from the years everyone remembers her for.

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Margaret Thatcher, speech to the National Union of Townswomen’s Guilds Conference, London, 20 May 1965, as quoted on page one of the Evening News (London), 20 May 1965. Transcription from Quote Investigator, “Quote Origin: If You Want Anything Said Ask a Man, Want Anything Done Ask a Woman” (5 November 2010) ↗, which read the report in the CD-ROM edition Margaret Thatcher: Complete Public Statements 1945–1990. No online facsimile of the newspaper page is available.

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