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We should not spoil what we have by desiring what we do not have, but remember that what we have too was the gift of fortune

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This is Vatican Saying XXXV, and the English sentence people quote is Cyril Bailey’s, printed at page 111 of Epicurus: The Extant Remains (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1926) — confirmed in the scanned edition. Bailey’s text reads “desiring what we have not”; the smoother “what we do not have” that circulates online is a modernised restatement of his line.

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“We should not spoil what we have by desiring what we have not, but remember that what we have too was the gift of fortune.” Epicurus, Vatican Sayings XXXV, translated by Cyril Bailey in Epicurus: The Extant Remains (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1926), p. 111.

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Work
Vatican Sayings (Sententiae Vaticanae), saying XXXV
Manuscript
Codex Vaticanus Graecus 1950, fourteenth century; the collection was found in 1888 by C. Wotke and published in Wiener Studien
Translation
Cyril Bailey, in Epicurus: The Extant Remains (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1926), p. 111
Greek
Οὐ δεῖ λυμαίνεσθαι τὰ παρόντα τῶν ἀπόντων ἐπιθυμίᾳ, ἀλλ’ ἐπιλογίζεσθαι ὅτι καὶ ταῦτα τῶν εὐκταίων ἦν.

XXXIV. It is not so much our friends’ help that helps us as the confidence of their help.
XXXV. We should not spoil what we have by desiring what we have not, but remember that what we have too was the gift of fortune.
[XXXVI. Epicurus’ life when compared to other men’s in respect of gentleness and self-sufficiency might be thought a mere legend.] Vatican Sayings XXXIV–XXXVI, p. 111

Bailey’s two editorial marks are worth reading. Square brackets — as round XXXVI, which talks about Epicurus in the third person — flag entries he judges came “not from Epicurus but from his disciples.” An asterisk, which XXXV carries in his Greek text, marks matter that was new when Wotke published the manuscript in 1888. XXXV is asterisked and unbracketed.

Clarendon Press edition, 1926 — page 111
Read the sentence in Bailey’s 1926 edition
Cyril Bailey, Epicurus: The Extant Remains (Oxford, 1926) — full scan

How we traced it

  • The English sentence is not a paraphrase floating loose online. It is printed word for word at page 111 of Cyril Bailey’s Epicurus: The Extant Remains, under the heading “Fragments — A. Vatican Collection,” as saying XXXV — see the scanned page ↗.
  • The Greek faces it on the opposite page, from a collection nobody had read for centuries: eighty-odd Epicurean sayings found in 1888 in a manuscript in the Vatican Library, now known as the Vatican Sayings ↗.
  • The sentiment sits squarely inside Epicurus’ ethics rather than being grafted on: his system turns on sorting desires into those that answer to something real and those that never can be satisfied, as the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy sets out ↗, and it treats the Vatican Sayings as one of the surviving sources for that teaching.
  • One caution about the wording, not the attribution: translators diverge at the end of the line. A different English version of saying 35 closes “what you now have was once among the things only hoped for” — no mention of fortune ↗. “The gift of fortune” is Bailey’s English, and it is contested: the Greek τῶν εὐκταίων means the things wished for, not the things luck handed over.
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The Greek original is ancient and long out of copyright, and the English wording quoted here comes from Cyril Bailey’s translation first published in 1926 by the Clarendon Press, Oxford — the title page in the scan confirms the date. A work first published before 1931 is in the public domain in the United States, so both the original and this particular translation may be quoted freely. Note that this applies to Bailey’s wording specifically; later twentieth-century translations of the same saying are separate works and may still be in copyright.

This reflects the original work, which is public domain. If your exact English wording comes from a specific modern translation, that translation may itself still be under copyright — check the edition you quote.

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What goes wrong with it

Nothing here is pinned on the wrong philosopher. The drift is in the wording, and in everything that gets dropped between a 1926 Oxford page and a quote card.

Wording“desiring what we do not have” modernised

The form that circulates smooths Bailey’s syntax. His printed text reads “We should not spoil what we have by desiring what we have not” — see page 111 of the 1926 edition ↗. The meaning is untouched; the sentence is no longer quite the one Bailey published.

Translation“the gift of fortune” Bailey’s phrasing

That closing phrase belongs to Bailey, not to the Greek word-for-word. Not every English version says ‘fortune’ at all: another widely posted rendering of the same saying ends “what you now have was once among the things only hoped for” — compare the two ↗. Readers of the Greek go further and call the choice a misreading: τῶν εὐκταίων is the things wished or prayed for, with no sense of luck in it, and Epicurus elsewhere warns against crediting Fortune — one discussion of the passage calls Bailey’s ending “strange and probably misleading” ↗. Quote cards almost never name a translator.

Sourcethe collection it comes from anthology

It is routinely posted with no source at all. It is not from a treatise or a letter we possess but from the Vatican Sayings, an anthology surviving in one fourteenth-century Vatican manuscript, not read again until 1888 ↗. Bailey brackets the entries he judges to come from Epicurus’ followers rather than Epicurus; XXXV is not bracketed.

The thought is Epicurus’. The English sentence is Cyril Bailey’s, Vatican Saying XXXV, page 111 of Epicurus: The Extant Remains (1926) ↗.

Context

Why it mattered

Epicurus sorted desires into the ones that answer to something real — food, shelter, an end to pain — and the ones that chase an empty sound. His whole ethics turns on that sorting, because a want with no floor under it can never be filled, and a mind chasing one is never quiet.

This saying is the practical edge of that idea, and it does something more interesting than telling you to be grateful. It points out that the thing you already have was, at some earlier moment, exactly the thing you were straining after — so the straining is what should be examined, not the inventory.

What you have now was once what you were wishing for.

How a saying nobody had read turned up in 1888

The Vatican Sayings were unknown until 1888, when C. Wotke found them in a fourteenth-century miscellany in the Vatican Library — a manuscript that also carries Xenophon, Marcus Aurelius and Epictetus — and published them in Wiener Studien. Bailey reports that about twenty of the eighty-odd entries were already familiar, several of them lifted from the Principal Doctrines; the rest were new.

Bailey marks the genuinely new material with an asterisk and puts square brackets round the entries he judges to come from Epicurus’ followers rather than the man himself. Saying XXXV carries the asterisk and no brackets: new to modern readers in 1888, and Epicurus’ own in Bailey’s reckoning.

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Who was Epicurus?

Epicurus

341–270 BC · Greek philosopher, founder of the Garden at Athens

Epicurus was born on Samos in 341 BC and died in Athens in 270 BC, where he taught in a walled garden that gave his school its name. He argued that pleasure — understood as freedom from bodily pain and mental disturbance — is the highest good, reached by managing what you want rather than by acquiring more. Most of his enormous output is lost; what survives is a handful of letters and two collections of compressed maxims, of which the Vatican Sayings is one.

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Epicurus. “Vatican Sayings” XXXV, in Epicurus: The Extant Remains, with Short Critical Apparatus, Translation and Notes, edited and translated by Cyril Bailey, 111. Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1926.

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