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Who really said it

Well, every one for himself, and Providence for us all — as the elephant said when he danced among the chickens

Not Charles Dickens — actually Charles Reade Charles Reade
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The line is a piece of dialogue from Charles Reade’s novel A Simpleton: A Story of the Day, first published in three volumes by Chapman and Hall in 1873. It is spoken in Chapter XIII by Lieutenant Fitzroy, needling the invalid young Lord Tadcaster over who gets the safer bunk aboard ship — and it appears verbatim in the full text at Project Gutenberg ↗. Wikiquote files it under Charles Dickens’s Misattributed heading and credits Reade.

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“Well, every one for himself, and Providence for us all — as the elephant said when he danced among the chickens” Charles Reade, A Simpleton: A Story of the Day (London: Chapman and Hall, 1873), chapter 13. Commonly misattributed to Charles Dickens. Verified at Quotle.info.

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Work
A Simpleton: A Story of the Day
First published
London: Chapman and Hall, 1873 (three volumes)
Location
Chapter XIII — spoken by Lieutenant Fitzroy to Lord Tadcaster
Popularly credited to
Charles Dickens — listed under “Misattributed” on Wikiquote

“He is not ill: I am. He is paid to take care of me: I am not paid to take care of him,” said the young lord sententiously.

“I understand,” replied Fitzroy, dryly. “Well, every one for himself, and Providence for us all—as the elephant said when he danced among the chickens.” Chapter XIII

The two men are aboard ship, dividing up the sleeping berths: Fitzroy has offered the invalid Lord Tadcaster his choice, and the boy has just taken the safe standing bed and left the swinging cot to his doctor.

Read A Simpleton in full at Project Gutenberg

The paper trail

  • The wording appears verbatim in the Project Gutenberg text of A Simpleton, in Chapter XIII, as Lieutenant Fitzroy’s reply to Lord Tadcaster.
  • Wikiquote’s Charles Dickens page ↗ places the quotation under Misattributed and credits “Charles Reade, A Simpleton (1873)”; the Charles Reade page ↗ carries it with the same source.
  • The Internet Archive holds a scan of A Simpleton: A Story of the Day, in Three Volumes, dated 1873 and published by Chapman and Hall of London — independent confirmation of the year.
  • The pull toward Dickens is easy to explain: this style of joke is a Wellerism ↗, named after Sam Weller in Dickens’s The Pickwick Papers. That is an association, not an attribution — a search of the full Gutenberg text of Pickwick finds no “chickens” and no “Providence for us all”.
Public domain

A Simpleton was first published in London by Chapman and Hall in 1873, long before the 1931 cut-off for US public domain, so both the novel and this sentence are free of copyright. The text is distributed openly by Project Gutenberg ↗; no translation is involved, as Reade wrote in English.

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Fact-check

How Dickens got the credit

This is one of the cleanest misattributions in the quote world: a real line, from a real Victorian novel, by the wrong Victorian novelist.

AuthorCharles Dickens Misattributed

Wikiquote carries the quotation in the Misattributed section of its Charles Dickens page ↗ and credits Charles Reade, A Simpleton (1873). Quote aggregators still headline it as a Dickens line — one page ↗ prints “Charles Dickens” at the top and then flags it as misattributed to Reade directly underneath.

Wording“Every man for himself, as the elephant said…” Reworded

The version that circulates usually drops Reade’s middle clause, “and Providence for us all”, which is the half the joke is actually deflating. Tommy Douglas’s much-quoted parliamentary version, sourced on Wikiquote ↗ to the Budget Debate in the House of Commons, Ottawa, 22 March 1943, runs “It is the law of every man for himself, as the elephant said when he was dancing among the chickens.”

In the wildA Depression-era cartoon caption Second-hand

A HuffPost column ↗ recalls an old cartoon of an elephant cavorting in a chicken coop and describes its caption as a paraphrase of Dickens — a good illustration of how the credit travels without anyone checking a text.

The words are Charles Reade’s, given to Lieutenant Fitzroy in Chapter XIII of A Simpleton (1873) — readable in full at Project Gutenberg ↗.

Context

Why this line keeps getting borrowed

Reade’s joke is a Wellerism: a proverb hijacked by a literal-minded speaker who ruins it. The proverbial half — every one for himself, and Providence for us all — sounds like humble resignation until an elephant says it while trampling a coop. The form is named after Sam Weller in Dickens’s The Pickwick Papers, serialised March 1836 to November 1837 and issued as a book in 1837, which is very likely why a Wellerism written by somebody else keeps drifting back onto Dickens’s shelf.

The gag also had a long political afterlife. In the Budget Debate in the House of Commons in Ottawa on 22 March 1943, Tommy Douglas turned it into an argument: free enterprise, he said, is the law of every man for himself, as the elephant said when he was dancing among the chickens — fine if you are in the elephant class, depressing if you are a farmer or a worker in the chicken group.

The proverb sounds pious. The elephant makes it a confession.

How we checked it

The wording was matched character-for-character against the Project Gutenberg text of A Simpleton, where it sits in Chapter XIII inside a two-line exchange between Lieutenant Fitzroy and Lord Tadcaster.

The Internet Archive holds a scan of the 1873 Chapman and Hall three-volume first edition, which fixes the publication year independently of the Gutenberg transcription.

We searched the full Gutenberg text of The Pickwick Papers for the phrase. “Chickens” does not occur in the book at all, and neither does “Providence for us all”; the four uses of “elephant” are unrelated.

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The real author

Who actually wrote it

Charles Reade

1814–1884 · British novelist & dramatist

Charles Reade (8 June 1814 – 11 April 1884) was a British novelist and dramatist, best remembered today for the historical romance The Cloister and the Hearth (1861). He built his reputation on campaigning fiction — It Is Never Too Late to Mend (1856) attacked prison conditions and Hard Cash (1863) went after private lunatic asylums — though he rated Griffith Gaunt (1866) his own best book. A Simpleton (1873), the novel that carries this line, is one of his later society stories, and its dialogue has the brisk comic snap that keeps getting mistaken for his more famous contemporary.

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Charles Reade, A Simpleton: A Story of the Day, 3 vols. (London: Chapman and Hall, 1873), chap. 13. Text confirmed against Project Gutenberg ebook no. 2301.

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