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When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic

Not Benjamin Franklin — a 20th-century misattribution Unknown — not Benjamin Franklin Franklin: 1706–1790 · wording first documented 1951
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This line appears in the “Misattributed” section of Wikiquote’s Benjamin Franklin page, which states there is “no evidence that Franklin ever actually said or wrote this.” It is a modern paraphrase of an idea whose earliest documented appearance is a 1951 newspaper column — and that older version was itself wrongly credited to Alexander Fraser Tytler ↗, in whose works it has never been found.

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“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic” Misattributed to Benjamin Franklin. There is no evidence Franklin said or wrote this; the idea's earliest documented appearance is a 1951 newspaper column, which credited a different wording to Alexander Fraser Tytler.

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Provenance

A quote with no author — and no source before 1951

Credited to
Benjamin Franklin (1706–1790)
Status
Misattributed — no Franklin source
Earliest documented
“This Is the Hard Core of Freedom,” The Daily Oklahoman, 9 Dec 1951
Actual concept
Ancient lineage (Polybius, Histories, Bk. VI)

When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.

No such sentence appears in Franklin’s letters, essays, almanacs, or recorded speeches. The related, differently-worded passage that circulated first read: “A democracy…can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the public treasury” — credited in 1951 to Tytler, not Franklin.

Wikiquote: Benjamin Franklin (Misattributed)

How we verified this

  • Wikiquote files this exact line under Misattributed on its Benjamin Franklin page ↗, noting “no evidence that Franklin ever actually said or wrote this.”
  • The closest older version was credited to Alexander Fraser Tytler in Elmer T. Peterson’s column “This Is the Hard Core of Freedom” in The Daily Oklahoman (9 Dec 1951) — the earliest documented occurrence ↗.
  • Wikiquote records that the passage “has not been found in Tytler’s works,” so even the Tytler credit is unsupported; the underlying idea echoes Polybius’s Histories ↗.

The exact wording is an anonymous modern paraphrase with no identified author or first-publication source before the mid-20th century, so no copyright or public-domain status can be responsibly asserted. It is not a genuine Franklin text.

Fact-check

A fake Franklin quote with a tangled family tree

This is a classic “Founder’s-quote” fabrication: a punchy political warning pinned onto Benjamin Franklin to borrow his authority. The wording has no source in anything Franklin wrote, and the idea itself has been passed around under at least three different famous names.

Benjamin Franklin misattributed

Wikiquote lists “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic” in its Misattributed section ↗, stating there is “no evidence that Franklin ever actually said or wrote this.”

Alexander Fraser Tytler unsupported

The related passage was credited to Tytler in a 1951 newspaper column, but Wikiquote notes the quotation “has not been found in Tytler’s works ↗.”

Alexis de Tocqueville also misattributed

Wikiquote observes the line is “remarkably similar” to a quote “often attributed, without proper sourcing, to Alexis de Tocqueville and Alexander Fraser Tytler” — none of the three attributions is documented in the named author’s writings.

The earliest documented appearance of this idea is Elmer T. Peterson’s 1951 column in The Daily Oklahoman — over a century and a half after Franklin’s death — per Wikiquote ↗.

Context

Why this quote sticks to Franklin

The sentiment — that democracies self-destruct once voters learn to reward themselves from the treasury — is an old one, with echoes as far back as the Greek historian Polybius. But the crisp, modern English sentence circulated today has no author earlier than the 1950s.

Attaching it to Benjamin Franklin gives a contemporary political argument the weight of a Founding Father. That is exactly the pattern behind most fake “Franklin,” “Jefferson,” and “Tytler” quotations: the words are real enough as an argument, but the attribution is decorative, not documentary.

No author before 1951 — and even then, credited to the wrong man.

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Wikiquote: Benjamin Franklin (Misattributed)en.wikiquote.org

Lists this exact line as misattributed, with the note that there is no evidence Franklin said or wrote it.
Wikiquote: Alexander Fraser Tytleren.wikiquote.org

Traces the earliest documented appearance to a 1951 column and notes the quote is not found in Tytler’s works.
The Quotations Page: Franklin entryquotationspage.com

Example of the uncritical Franklin attribution that circulates online without any primary source.
Fake Founders’ Quotestumblr.com

Documents this specific line as NOT Benjamin Franklin among commonly-faked Founder quotations.

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About Benjamin Franklin

Benjamin Franklin

1706–1790 · American statesman, printer & Founding Father

Benjamin Franklin was a printer, scientist, diplomat, and signer of the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution — and, as author of Poor Richard’s Almanack, one of America’s most quotable figures. That fame makes him a magnet for invented “Founder” quotations. This warning about voting oneself money is one of them: it matches neither his documented views nor any text in his voluminous published papers, and did not surface until more than 160 years after his death.

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Attribution disputed. Earliest documented in Elmer T. Peterson, “This Is the Hard Core of Freedom,” The Daily Oklahoman (9 December 1951), where a differently-worded version was credited to Alexander Fraser Tytler. No source in Benjamin Franklin’s works. See Wikiquote, “Benjamin Franklin” (Misattributed) and “Alexander Fraser Tytler.”

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