Brown said this to a University of Houston writer for the profile “Professor Encourages Openness to Vulnerability,” where both sentences appear word for word inside quotation marks and are attributed to her directly. It is a spoken interview line rather than a sentence from any of her books — Daring Greatly carries a closely related but differently worded cousin.
“Shame hates to have words wrapped around it. If we talk about it, it loses its grip on us” Brené Brown, quoted in Michelle Klump, "Professor Encourages Openness to Vulnerability," University of Houston Pride Stories (c. 2010). Verified by Quotle.info.
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Where the line actually comes from
Source
Professor Encourages Openness to Vulnerability
Published in
University of Houston, “Pride Stories” profile series — by Michelle Klump
Date
Undated on the page; written while The Gifts of Imperfection (first published 2010) was still “forthcoming,” so c. 2010
Form
Direct quotation in an interview-based profile
In her years of research, Brown has found that defining shame helps to dispel it. “Shame hates to have words wrapped around it. If we talk about it, it loses its grip on us,” she said. “A lot of my work is about helping give people language to understand, to make meaning out of their own experiences.”
Pride Stories profile, c. 2010
The words inside the quotation marks are Brown’s; the framing sentence is the profile writer’s. The article closes with the byline “— By Michelle Klump.”
The wording that circulates online matches, word for word, a direct quotation in the University of Houston profile Professor Encourages Openness to Vulnerability ↗, where the sentences sit inside quotation marks followed by “she said.” The live UH page is gone; the archived capture is dated 9 February 2012.
Wikiquote’s Brené Brown entry ↗ carries the identical wording in its Quotes section and cites the same University of Houston “Pride Stories” profile — an independent pointer to the same origin.
The profile is undated, but it describes The Gifts of Imperfection as “forthcoming,” and Open Library dates that book’s first publication to 2010 ↗. The article also notes Brown “recently was featured at both the Houston and Kansas City TEDx conferences,” which fits the same period.
A near-twin sentence lives in Brown’s writing on shame: her chapter “Understanding and Combating Shame” in Daring Greatly reads “Shame hates having words wrapped around it. If we speak shame, it begins to wither” — the version quote round-ups usually reproduce ↗. That is a separate utterance from the spoken line on this page, not a variant transcription of it.
The line is documented in a University of Houston “Pride Stories” profile written c. 2010 — far later than the 1931 cutoff for U.S. public domain — so both the article and Brown’s spoken words remain in copyright. The archived page carries a University of Houston copyright notice. Quoting the sentence with attribution is ordinary citation; reproducing the profile is not.
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What people get wrong about it
The attribution here is sound — the problem is the sourcing. This sentence is passed around with nothing but a name attached, and it is routinely blended with a very similar line from Brown’s book Daring Greatly.
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Source of the wordingBrown’s book Daring Greatly (2012) wording swap
The book’s shame chapter says “Shame hates having words wrapped around it. If we speak shame, it begins to wither” — the wording quote collections most often reproduce ↗. It is close enough that the two get treated as one quotation, but the second half differs entirely, and Open Library dates that book to 2012 ↗ — after the interview in which the version on this page was spoken.
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CitationQuote aggregators and social posts no source given
The sentence overwhelmingly travels with a bare name and no work, date or occasion attached. Wikiquote ↗ is one of the few places that names anything at all, pointing to the University of Houston profile — a page that has since disappeared from uh.edu and survives only in the Internet Archive.
The profile catches Brown at a hinge moment: a University of Houston social work professor who had just turned up at TEDx conferences in Houston and Kansas City, with her first crossover book still unpublished. The interview is mostly about teaching and the college she trained in. The shame line arrives almost in passing, as her one-sentence summary of what years of research had taught her.
What makes it durable is that it is a method, not a maxim. In the same breath she explains the point: “A lot of my work is about helping give people language to understand, to make meaning out of their own experiences.” The claim is that shame is defeated by vocabulary — which is also, conveniently, a description of her job.
Shame is defeated by vocabulary — which is also a description of her job.
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Because Brown reworked the same idea across talks and books, her shame lines come in several near-identical shapes. That is why sourcing matters more than usual here: an almost-right quotation attached to the wrong book is the common failure mode with her, not outright fabrication.
The University of Houston page is no longer live. Everything on it is now readable only through Internet Archive captures — a reminder that institutional web pages are among the least stable citations a quote can have.
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Born 1965 · American research professor & author on shame and vulnerability
Casandra Brené Brown is an American research professor who holds the Huffington Foundation’s Brené Brown Endowed Chair at the University of Houston’s Graduate College of Social Work. Her fieldwork on shame, vulnerability and courage moved from academic journals to a mass audience after a 2010 TEDx talk, followed by a run of number-one bestsellers including The Gifts of Imperfection, Daring Greatly and Atlas of the Heart. Her central practical claim — that naming an emotion precisely is what drains its power — is exactly what this sentence states.
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Michelle Klump, “Professor Encourages Openness to Vulnerability: Shame researcher says vulnerability provides the path to joy,” University of Houston, “Pride Stories” (undated; c. 2010), archived at the Internet Archive, capture of 9 February 2012.
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