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Who really said it

The philosophy of science is as useful to scientists as ornithology is to birds

Nobody on record — and Feynman is the last name to have earned it Unknown
Attribution status: Disputed Reuse status: Rights unconfirmed

Quote Investigator ↗ found “no substantive support” for the Feynman attribution, and notes the line does not appear in The Quotable Feynman (Princeton University Press, 2015) — the word “ornithology” is absent from that book entirely. The earliest close match QI located is a speech by the physicist Steven Weinberg printed in Nature on 3 December 1987, and Weinberg went out of his way not to claim it: “I’ve heard the remark (although I forget the source)…”

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“The philosophy of science is as useful to scientists as ornithology is to birds” Author unknown. Popularised by Steven Weinberg in Nature, 3 December 1987, who said he had forgotten the source; part of a family of sayings begun by painter Barnett Newman in 1955. Not Richard Feynman. — Quotle.info · Verbatim: “the philosophy of science is just about as useful to scientists as ornithology is to birds”

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Provenance

The source

Popularly credited to
Richard Feynman (1918–1988)
Actual status
Creator unknown — Quote Investigator’s conclusion
Earliest close match
Steven Weinberg, in Nature, 3 December 1987
Family originator
Barnett Newman, on aesthetics and artists, in Art in America, 1955

I’ve heard the remark (although I forget the source) that the philosophy of science is just about as useful to scientists as ornithology is to birds.

— Steven Weinberg, in a speech printed in Nature, 3 December 1987. The ancestor of the whole family, credited to the painter Barnett Newman in Art in America in 1955, runs: “aesthetics is for the artist like Ornithology is for the birds”.

Weinberg’s sentence is not quite the one in circulation — he says “just about as useful”, and John D. Barrow’s 1988 version says “about as useful”. The tightened wording people quote today matches neither exactly.

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How we verified this

  • Quote Investigator’s investigation ↗ concludes: “the creator of this saying about the philosophy of science remains unknown.” It reports that the line is absent from The Quotable Feynman (2015), which QI verified against scans.
  • The earliest close match QI located is Steven Weinberg ↗’s speech printed in Nature on 3 December 1987, in which he attributes the remark to a source he says he has forgotten — an anonymous attribution, not a claim of authorship.
  • QI places the saying in a family begun by the painter Barnett Newman ↗ in Art in America in 1955, on aesthetics and artists; variants about art criticism and about biography were in print by 1986, before the philosophy-of-science version appeared.
  • The line also sits in the “Disputed and/or attributed” section of Feynman’s Wikiquote page ↗, not among his sourced quotations.

The saying has no identified author and no traceable first publication — the 1987 Nature appearance is a speaker repeating something he had heard and could not source. No copyright status can responsibly be asserted. The specific wording that circulates today does not match either of the documented 1987 or 1988 versions exactly.

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How Feynman’s name got attached

This one has a clear path: a real physicist repeated an anonymous remark, and over a decade the anonymity was filled in with the most famous available physicist.

The exact wordingRichard Feynman No evidence

Quote Investigator ↗ found no substantive support, and the quotation is absent from The Quotable Feynman, the 2015 Princeton University Press compendium edited by his daughter Michelle Feynman.

The earliest Feynman attributionPhilip Kitcher, 1998 Hedged at the time

The philosopher Philip Kitcher referred to “Richard Feynman’s famous (perhaps apocryphal) judgment” in his chapter “A Plea for Science Studies” in A House Built on Sand (Oxford University Press, 1998). This is the earliest printed Feynman linkage QI knows of — and Kitcher himself flagged it as possibly apocryphal, a caveat later quoters dropped.

The popularizerSteven Weinberg Repeated it, disclaimed it

Weinberg’s 1987 Nature speech is what put the phrasing into circulation among scientists, but he prefaced it with “I’ve heard the remark (although I forget the source)”. He is the reason people know the line, not the reason it exists.

The family it belongs toBarnett Newman Ancestor of the saying, not its author

The painter Barnett Newman ↗ (1905–1970) is credited in Art in America in 1955 with “aesthetics is for the artist like Ornithology is for the birds”. Versions about art criticism and about biography were circulating by 1986; the philosophy-of-science variant is the youngest branch of the tree.

The creator is unknown. Feynman did criticise philosophers of science — but not in these words, and the analogy was not his to begin with. See Quote Investigator ↗.

Context

The awkward part

Feynman is not an absurd candidate, which is exactly why the attribution survived. He really was scathing about philosophers of science: Quote Investigator quotes a Caltech lecture from the early 1960s in which he calls their claims about what is “absolutely necessary for science” naive and probably wrong, and then dismantles one with an example about the aurora borealis.

So the sentiment is genuinely his. The sentence is not. That gap — right person, wrong words — is the hardest kind of misattribution to dislodge, because everyone who repeats it can point to something true.

The sentiment is genuinely his. The sentence is not.

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Why it gets pinned on Feynman

Richard Feynman

1918–1988 · theoretical physicist · Nobel Prize 1965

Richard Feynman (1918–1988) shared the 1965 Nobel Prize in Physics for quantum electrodynamics, and was famously impatient with anything he judged to be talk about science rather than science. He did say sharp things about philosophers — which is what makes this particular misattribution so durable. The line expresses a view he held; it simply is not a sentence anyone can show he wrote or spoke.

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Quote Investigator

Garson O’Toole, “Quote Origin: The Philosophy of Science Is As Useful To Scientists As Ornithology Is To Birds,” Quote Investigator, 9 April 2023. Earliest close match: Steven Weinberg, speech printed in Nature, 3 December 1987 (attributing the remark to a forgotten source). Family originator: Barnett Newman, in Art in America, December 1955. Earliest Feynman linkage: Philip Kitcher, “A Plea for Science Studies,” in A House Built on Sand (Oxford University Press, 1998).

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